Now , i dont want to cause another war between Scotland and England :lol: BUT , just wondered why is it when it comes to footy England is in the news and Scotland is reported to get booted out :oops: :oops: so say the news at 10 ... but , when Andy Murray plays the final of the Austrailian open he suddenly becomes British grrrrrrrrrr when its bad its Scottish when its good and its Scottish suddenly becomes British :shock: just thought id ask you lot South of the border ... :grin:
Surely Sue, if Andy Murray is Scottish or English, then he is British, and in the Australian Open he represents Britain. In football Scotland choose to side their own team, as do England, so if one does better than the other, then one gets the news, and the other does nay. I have always said, why not have a British Football Team, like there is in Rugby. We all might win something then...... :shock: :shock:
Anyway, good luck to Andy Murray tomorrow, or in a few hours over there.
I see your sensible point Chris . but your gonna hate this ... but i dont consider myself to be British at all ,i consider myself to be Scottish and im not at all sorry for that , but not wanting to be at all political because this is not what this forum is about , i was just interested as to what others thought about it :grin:
I think the Welsh feel this way also. I have to admit I don't understand it. Could it be that our Qeen is Queen of England, Brittain and the Commonwealth maybe so she has caused this seperatist attitude? I am a Royalist (at least I think I am).
Well sadly Andy Murray lost the final in three straight sets, but does not in my opinion now make him Scottish in the sense we refer to. He still is British, represents Britain, and came runner up for Britain.
Personally if Scotland, Wales, even Northern Ireland want devolution, then so be it, but it must be all the way. By this, I mean they do not seek support from Westminster if it did not go right.
Ironically, one of my favourite actors thinks along the same lines as being Scottish rather than British, but became a Knight, Sir Sean Connery.
I dont think its anything to do with the Queen Rog , well not for me , we are all proud of our heritage . and i am Scottish , and consider myself that , and as i say not British , im sure when most go on holiday and some one asks where your from , i say im from Scotland , i dont say im from Britain who says that ? anyway , Andy Murray shame he didnt win , not really into tennis anyway , was just interested after hearing the news .
Guess it does Rog , but whether we like it or not there are definitely differences in our cultures , i mean would you walk round the shops or go to the pub in a kilt :lol: do you eat stovies mince and tatties , haggis , skirlie , meelie puddings and listen to the bagpipes of an evening ... no you wouldnt :lol:
mitera wrote:Guess it does Rog , but whether we like it or not there are definitely differences in our cultures , i mean would you walk round the shops or go to the pub in a kilt :lol: do you eat stovies mince and tatties , haggis , skirlie , meelie puddings and listen to the bagpipes of an evening ... no you wouldnt :lol:
Ah the delights of Scotland. Stovies, of course we do, I think most have done in the past made a stew or casserole out of the leftovers of the Sunday dinner, or previous days dinner. Mince and Tatties, a common dinner south of the border, moreso in my childhood days, but still have it now and then. Haggis, I already explained that above. Skirlie have often used as a stuffing, and also used when making Meelie Puddings (Sausages). Pipe Bands are one of my favourite band music. And on two occasions I had to wear a kilt as a page boy at two cousins weddings back in the 50s and 60s. I wore a Tartan of the Bell name.
Not bad for an English man, of Britain and the UK................. :grin: :grin: :grin:
lol Chis .. you amaze me is there anything you havnt done ? :shock: well good for you , but meelie pudding in Scotland isnt a sausage its white pudding with suet onion , oatmeal salt and pepper . which you get from the butcher, if you make it yourself its skirlie as its the same idea without the skin . :smile:
Spent a lot of time in Scotland when in the Royal Navy, Scottish relatives, and many friends also from my naval career. Regarding the Meelie Sausages, or the White Sausage, we had a butcher in Dorchester who use to make all kinds of sausages including them, sadly he passed away, and no one took on the task. My uncle Bob Bell makes them now and then, and brings a couple to Elaines Pharmacy when he collects his medication. It is not just Scottish food I enjoy, but I do often use recipes from around the UK, my father being Welsh, and my mother from up north. So as you can see, through in the Greek recipes, French and Spanish, Chinese and Indian, quite a varied menu.
For us here in Scotland a sausage has a skin on so therefore we call the meelie a pudding if you asked for a meelie sausage here we would laugh also if we wanted to call you a thick head we would call you a meelie pudding :lol: i like all foods too prefering Greek after my own of course , not fond of Indian or Chinese or Mexican though . i also like Italian , well i say that as i like Pasta :grin: im not great at trying foods i think i wont like , but im trying :grin: